Gassho Zenner,

thanks for posting, that will keep me quiet for a while!!
I have never tryed to read Master Nargajuna direct. I realy dont have the capacity to absorb and adequatly interpret his meaning. I have on the other hand recieved teachings that use his words.
It is my understanding that a qualified teacher who realy understands this stuff is necessary to convey the true meaning.

I havent had time to read and absorb what you have posted i will endeavor to do so.

I understand that what he refers to is that what apears to be a cause isnt, the true cause is karma which is ripening.

I venture into teritory that i can not proove with logic. Emptiness is in the category of things that are deeply hidden to an ordinary being
Karma is even more so!

Let me run a quick scenario before i get to bed,
Take a headache pill i take it and my headache goes away, you take it and nothing happens. Was it the taking of the pill that caused the ending of the headache?
I say no, if taking a pill was a true cause it would work every time for me and for all.

How does this sound; i have a perception of me having a headache, i take a pill and my perception shifts to no headache.
I could also have the perception of headache stay.
If the headache leaves it isnt because of the pill it is because the karmic imprint to see headache ended, Apparently the pill is how the headache goes but not why the headache goes.

karma answers why.

Got to go bed getting a headache : )

Shine

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